My buddy pointed and was like, "Look! Spock Prime!" and I was like "Wow! Spock Prime punched a hole through time!" really loudly and then he laughed because he got it. XD
My other friend didn't get it, but she did laugh at us.
Well, yeah, who wouldn't be angry? But he had a chance to fix it, you know? He could have SAVED all those lives, but instead he wastes his chance on his revenge kick.
Although, that was something that bothered me. An astronomical event like that doesn't happen overnight, and there are certainly warning signs for years, even centuries beforehand. WHY WAS THERE NO EVACUATION?
Maybe. The first event was a fluke, reproducing it to find the exact point in which to stop events might have just proven impossible.
Supernovas are funny things. Sure, it can be a big, old star that has a better chance than a younger one to go, but that can take hundreds of thousands of years still, so unless they're actively monitoring it, they may have no idea it's about to blow until they suddenly have days to evacuate nearby planets.
And from what I know about Romulus, they focused more on a military budget than science or culture, so this might have just been a more time-travel and dramatically inclined version of the events of The Undiscovered Country and the destruction of Praxis; again, a preventable natural disaster that the Klingons neither saw coming nor had the resources to deal with.
Oh, I didn't mean time traveling to the point where it all went pear-shaped and trying some thrilling heroics while everything is going blooey. I meant hauling ass to Romulus as soon as he'd figured out when he was and getting the evac underway right then. Or at least going, "Hey, you have no reason to believe me, but you might want to think about relocating to a system that's less explodey."
But then, if he hadn't done that, we wouldn't have had a movie. But what I REALLY wanna know is, how did Kirk's dad buying the farm make Uhura hot for Spock?
Oooohkay, yeah, that makes like, way more sense. Um. I dunno, maybe he tried. He did say he wasn't speaking for the Empire, for a loyal citizen of said Empire, that seems a bit odd... if they hadn't already brushed him off, so he was like, "Fine, I'll just go about my own business of revenge then, fuck you very much."
I was actually talking to my buddy about this... I found the weirder part was him apparently being hot for her. Being emotionally compromised and all that, but still, he's brushed off many a female advance. Maybe feeling overly emotional led to him having a moment of weakness and not when he normally would in "normal" continuity. I think if he had, she'd shrug it off and be stoic and awesome enough not to let it be obvious.
I dunno, as a bigwig responsible for the lives of billions, I'd have a hard time brushing off the evidence he could bring to bear (the big technologically advanced ship, the holo-recording thingies, etc;). But I'm neither a bigwig, nor a Romulan, who are generally paranoid and untrusting anyway. (You know, that's another thing. Did Nero's ship seem ridiculously overpowered for a "simple" mining vessel to you?)
Yeah, I probably should have reversed the order there. Not that I blame either of them for hooking up, really. Uhura's always been gorgeous, and Quinto's Spock? UNF. I would hit that SO HARD.
Yeah; even for all that stuff, they might be all like, "Federation trick to make us abandon our territory! Hell to the no!"
The actual weapons? Kinda. I guess it's all from the future and all that... maybe they were mining something really valuable? I can see having to fend off a theoretically high-powered foe if they were carrying a ton of dilithium or something. Dunno.
I'd still go for old-school Uhura faster, gotta say, but yeah. XD
Well, if it's an asteroid miner, it makes sense to have a really big ship for bringing everything back, and really big rock-cracking devices for getting to the good stuff, which would also make for a core-drilling death machine. The other option is to dig into the asteroid and put a big honking engine on it, and that way lies Yonada. :)
I've read the reviews that the movie is fantastic, but also that there are scenes in there with critters (I hate critters, which is why I still have not been able to sit through an entire showing of Wrath of Khan even after all this time) and I emphatically don't want to see them.
Could you please tell me at what point in the film they show up? (beginning, midway, latter) so I can avoid them when this comes out in dvd?
The little scary bug comes out near the end of Captain Pike's interrogation scene; the big scary monsters attack Kirk when he's plodding across the tundra of planet he gets marooned on. There's a warning for when the big monsters are going to appear; you can see and hear one coming from a distance.
Oh, thank you, thank you! Oddly, I don't mind huge monsters at all (here boy, good, Godzilla! lol), but bugs and creepy crawlies send me leaping for the nearest table.) I may still have relative pre-screen this for me just in case lest I not be able to sleep.
Thank goodness Wally only dealt with nothing worse giant mind-control gorillas and universe destroying computer programs.
When it comes to bugs, there's really just the one, so as soon as he starts being "You will tell me what you know!" you can just skip over it to the next scene and you should be alright.
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on 2009-05-16 04:02 am (UTC)I could not even believe how good that shit was. I feel so satisfied on such a deep multi-tiered level of nerd.
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on 2009-05-16 04:20 pm (UTC)My buddy pointed and was like, "Look! Spock Prime!" and I was like "Wow! Spock Prime punched a hole through time!" really loudly and then he laughed because he got it. XD
My other friend didn't get it, but she did laugh at us.
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on 2009-05-16 02:15 pm (UTC)Nero was cool, but kind of a short-sighted dumbass.
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on 2009-05-16 04:22 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-05-16 04:40 pm (UTC)Although, that was something that bothered me. An astronomical event like that doesn't happen overnight, and there are certainly warning signs for years, even centuries beforehand. WHY WAS THERE NO EVACUATION?
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on 2009-05-16 05:01 pm (UTC)Supernovas are funny things. Sure, it can be a big, old star that has a better chance than a younger one to go, but that can take hundreds of thousands of years still, so unless they're actively monitoring it, they may have no idea it's about to blow until they suddenly have days to evacuate nearby planets.
And from what I know about Romulus, they focused more on a military budget than science or culture, so this might have just been a more time-travel and dramatically inclined version of the events of The Undiscovered Country and the destruction of Praxis; again, a preventable natural disaster that the Klingons neither saw coming nor had the resources to deal with.
(Oh god I am such a nerd.)
So... yeah. That's my reasoning, anyway.
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on 2009-05-16 05:17 pm (UTC)But then, if he hadn't done that, we wouldn't have had a movie. But what I REALLY wanna know is, how did Kirk's dad buying the farm make Uhura hot for Spock?
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on 2009-05-16 06:01 pm (UTC)I was actually talking to my buddy about this... I found the weirder part was him apparently being hot for her. Being emotionally compromised and all that, but still, he's brushed off many a female advance. Maybe feeling overly emotional led to him having a moment of weakness and not when he normally would in "normal" continuity. I think if he had, she'd shrug it off and be stoic and awesome enough not to let it be obvious.
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on 2009-05-16 06:25 pm (UTC)(You know, that's another thing. Did Nero's ship seem ridiculously overpowered for a "simple" mining vessel to you?)
Yeah, I probably should have reversed the order there. Not that I blame either of them for hooking up, really. Uhura's always been gorgeous, and Quinto's Spock? UNF. I would hit that SO HARD.
/geek
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on 2009-05-16 06:50 pm (UTC)The actual weapons? Kinda. I guess it's all from the future and all that... maybe they were mining something really valuable? I can see having to fend off a theoretically high-powered foe if they were carrying a ton of dilithium or something. Dunno.
I'd still go for old-school Uhura faster, gotta say, but yeah. XD
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on 2009-05-18 03:59 am (UTC)--Jessica
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on 2009-05-18 04:06 am (UTC)Trekker with weak stomach
on 2009-05-16 05:05 pm (UTC)Could you please tell me at what point in the film they show up? (beginning, midway, latter) so I can avoid them when this comes out in dvd?
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on 2009-05-16 05:13 pm (UTC)The little scary bug comes out near the end of Captain Pike's interrogation scene; the big scary monsters attack Kirk when he's plodding across the tundra of planet he gets marooned on. There's a warning for when the big monsters are going to appear; you can see and hear one coming from a distance.
Re: Trekker with weak stomach
on 2009-05-16 05:30 pm (UTC)Oddly, I don't mind huge monsters at all (here boy, good, Godzilla! lol), but bugs and creepy crawlies send me leaping for the nearest table.)
I may still have relative pre-screen this for me just in case lest I not be able to sleep.
Thank goodness Wally only dealt with nothing worse giant mind-control gorillas and universe destroying computer programs.
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on 2009-05-16 06:51 pm (UTC)